Laser Diode Power Output Based on DVD-R/RW specs

Unknown red laser diode - what performance can we expect? - Elabz.com
First off, run an Internet search for the part number. Usually, you don’t even have to leave the first page of the search results in your favorite search engine. There’s normally someone still selling these drives (unless it’s a VERY old model) and they put all the info you need to know right in the title of their listing: Philips dvd8631 16xdvd±rw dl ide drive . So, it’s a 16-speed, dual layer writing DVD drive, so it does have a high power red laser in it.
The power of the laser can be assessed based on the advertised speed.
According to Sony’s product brochure for one of their high-power red laser diodes, SLD1236VL, the diode’s output power (CW or continuous power) will be somewhere along this list:
- x4 speed recoding – 100mW
- x8 speed recording – 140mW
- x12 speed recording – 200mW
- x16 speed recording – 250mW
- x16 Dual Layer speed recording – 300mW
- x24 Dual Layer speed recording – 400mW
You can also venture a really rough guess based on the date of manufacture if by some very strange reason no info about your drive is available on the Internet (what is it, from Mars?) or you’re just been really lazy:
- 2002-2003 – x4 speed recoding – 100mW
- 2003-2004 – x8 speed recording – 140mW
- 2004-2005 – x12 – speed recording – 200mW
- 2004-2005 – x16 – speed recording – 250mW
- 2005-2008 – x16 speed recording Dual Layer – 300mW
- 2008-current x24 speed recording Dual Layer – 400mW
Note that many of the most recent drives have laser diodes either without any package (bare silicon inside the optical assembly) or on really hard to work with glass plates. You may want to stay away from those.
Ideally, what you are looking for (from the DIY perspective) is a red laser diode of 200mW+ optical power output in a TO-18 package, meaning a round metal body with the larger diameter of 5.6mm – the size/shape most prevalent among suppliers of mountings for the diode, such as AixiZ or O-Like. This diode operates at 2.5V and 130mA current and has a wavelength of 658nm.
So, your ideal drive to harvest parts from, at least for DIY CNC laser cutting purposes, is usually manufactured in 2005-2008 and it’s a desktop drive advertised as a 16x speed recorder. So, yeah, this Phillips drive was a good pick …
Happy harvesting!
Oh, and before you go: even the lowest power laser diodes mentioned here will burn your retina if you’re not careful, so use proper laser safety glasses!


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hello there…
ive seem to run into some problem along my laser building attempt…..i have carefully extracted a 3 pin laser diode and its lens from a dvd drive but im just left here with the naked diode in hand….any chance you can help me or give me tips on how to make a housing for my diode….the ever so famous Aixiz housing is really hard to get where im from..thank you
Hi Anthony, I completely understand your issue. The AixiZ ( or similar) housing is not always available and that’s why I did another post some time ago about making a laser diode housing out of hardware store parts (plumbing section, naturally
). Please note that for a really serious work you will have to actually get yourself an AixiZ or O-Like (named after it’s probably most prominent seller on eBay that goes by that name) housing because when optics are concerned, there’s little substitute for the precision that professionally manufactured housings provide. But in a pinch, you can create something like my “plumbing section laser diode housing” that will get you through the time you’re waiting for the professionally made one to arrive.
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sir i get laser diode from dvd to make a laser burner and i made circut with lm 317 +10 om ris+ 47mf35v cap…but when i give 6 v lase diod just red not burning much ..wher i am wrong pl help me
For a laser diode to start burning anything it has to be properly focused first. Otherwise the energy is just not concentrated enough. I could not get it from your comment, but are you using any kind of laser diode housing with lens to focus the light on the piece you’re trying to burn? In a pinch I did OK using what’s available in the DVD itself and some hardware store parts. With this hardware store parts laser housing I was able to burn some black foam. Although for serious work you would need professionally made housing and lens.
Also, when you say that it’s “just red”: how bright a light we are talking about? Inside each laser diode there’s a simple LED and it the laser diode itself is damaged, the LED will continue to light up, just rather dimly. If all you have is a dim red light, then, unfortunately, the laser diode is dead. Hope it’s not the case.
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hi,
truely inspired from this page but i am planning to buy an OSRAM SPLPL90 laser diode. After reading the datasheet. i have the following queries:
1. its wavelength is around 905nm so even if it runs on its full power, i will not be able to see the light. correct?
2. do i need a constant current supply for this. if yes, what should be the max. open circuit output voltage of the supply to prevent the diode to be damaged.
3. it states that it is pulsed power, so what duty cycle or frequency should be ideal for this diode.
4. does a red laser of 25w is powerful than an IR laser of 25W.
Thanks in advance.
OSRAM SPLPL90 laser diode seems a very interesting but very odd device. Looking at it’s datasheet, it has 40A (!) forward current. 40A in a form factor of a 5mm LED? This is just a crazy amount of current! Anyhow, the datasheet states that its duty cycle is only 0.1% , in other words, it can be on for only 1/1000 of the time you’re using it.
I don’t think you can use it for anything much as far as laser cutting it concerned. For one thing there’s no housing for a 5mm plastic body device that I know of. All laser diode housing I’ve seen are designed to accommodate a standard-type laser diode in various metal can TO packages – 5.6mm, 9mm. I just can’t see how you can cool a plastic device that passes 40A through it without melting completely.
Additionally, the 0.1% duty cycle does not seem like it’ll work for anything. I guess you can consider it to be 1/1000th of 25W of useful energy, as in 25mW – far too low to cut anything. Laser diodes start cutting the lightest materials at approx 100mW and become somewhat more useful at around 200mW.
IR may be better for some applications than red because there are materials (most notably- acrylic) that are transparent to visible light yet opaque to IR. However, the laser diodes are nowhere near the power needed to actually cut acrylic sheets, so for all intents and purposes your 200mW red (~650-670nm) laser will have the same capabilities as 200mW IR (800nm and longer wavelength). But the red laser will be much safer because you can see its output. So, if you’re just starting to play with these, I would strongly advise to start with a laser diode that emits visible light for safety.
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really thanks for your advice. i would better first go for a DVD laser. actually, i am in india a nd have no good source for such kind of things.
thanks again
one more question, cant we dissipate some of the heat from the diode through its leads.
I think it’s a given that some heat does get dissipated through the leads but it’s not going to be enough. All laser diodes I’ve seen so far have metal cases except for one that came from an Apple DVD writer – that one is all glass (or silica). But none had cases made of plastic – it just does not transfer heat away from the chip fast enough.
As far as sources of laser diodes – one of the reasons I started breaking into DVD writers to get the diodes is that the DVD drives are so common – I had a couple sitting on my shelf before I even got into this. If I had a broken one, too, I would have started playing with these lasers much earlier
– it was a shame to break a perfectly well working drive, so I had to get myself broken units from eBay.
I’m pretty sure you can find some broken DVD writers in India, too. Any company that does computer repairs should have a surplus of broken DVD drives – since no one repairs electronics these days – they’re just sitting and waiting to be trashed. I think it’s much better if they’d be harvested for useful parts before that.
Good luck!
THANKS ALOT.